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Evil Boy™17.1K Verified uploader
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This thread is for wrong user link from my side to help him get out of this problem!!
He wants a Graphic card !!
His Budget is 500usd to 800usd!!
On Basis of this : games+performance+budget
He have 2 questions:
1. nvidia or ati?
2. single unit gpu ultra high end or just a simple high end but sli/crossfire?
And give ur suggestions!!
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32 bit win7 can be made to work with more than 4GB of RAM, (64GB is maximum with 36-bit PAE) however no single application will be able to address more than 4GB!
I would just stop thinking about 32-bit Win7 and just use the 64-bit version, if only because it’s faster. Maybe more importantly many serious programs are stopping support for 32-bit environments (After Effects, Premiere etc.).
My advice is to get 16GB of RAM as your config is fairly powerful and RAM is dirt cheap. Some newer games can make use of the RAM and most every pro app will be more than grateful.
For mobo the only logical choice is Intel Z77 chipset. Someone mentioned Asus Sabertooth – excellent choice, as is Asus P8Z77-V Pro. At this time Asus mobos are not the best value but Asus has the absolutely best reputation for motherboards. If you are after value look at Asrock… Don’t chase high end boards – they make NO sense if you are not going to be using exotic stuff like liquid nitrogen of quad SLI.
An important thing for SLI is to look at the spacing between the two cards. The mobos mentioned have their x16 slots three PCIe slots apart to aid GPU cooling…

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I see you are also concerned about power usage and I didn't see if you have picked a PSU yet.
The choice of PSU can actually make more difference in your power bill than some of the GPUs discussed here. 80 PLUS® Platinum certification is where state of the art efficiency is at. There are many fine choices however Seasonic Platinum Series is about the best there is.
The 860W version is all you will ever need even with SLI.

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Pringlescan17.59K Super User
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I see you are also concerned about power usage and I didn't see if you have picked a PSU yet.
The choice of PSU can actually make more difference in your power bill than some of the GPUs discussed here. 80 PLUS® Platinum certification is where state of the art efficiency is at. There are many fine choices however Seasonic Platinum Series is about the best there is.
The 860W version is all you will ever need even with SLI.

Thermaltake > seasonic
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Thanks Drunkee lolbiggrinsmilewink
I didn't get the GTX680 yet havent scoped out frys or bstbuy yet. usually i saw lots of xfx in bstbuy. But I will be getting a card real soon. yeah i gotta consider power consumption of the card, you have to consider that because its gonna add up to your monthly electricity bill.
a great awesome performing card with lower energy consumption than the competition, now that sounds like a winner in my book.
but yeah if it's convincing enough I might change my choice. but as of now I'm waiting for a reason to yet.
Yeah sounds like pringlescan really knows his stuff.
i added an additional $150 buffer just incase but i decided to stick with one card yet and then do SLI later on when cards get a bit more cheaper.
i was also basing my final choice with the number of pm's i got about which would be a better choice.
and also the link that i placed with my chart comparison that i built up.
if you want, could you point out which aspect the 7970 would deliver way greater throughput against GTX680?

If you want to go on bare specs the ATi 6990 is better than the GTX 670/80/90 and the 7970.
yeah I am seeing the potential of the radeon 6990! thanks.
really nice stats/specs! just looked into the teraFlops that is part of ATI/AMD Radeon computing and i find TFlops really interesting.
i have included a stat chart of the Radeon 6990 right below this line.

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Exactly Kasualty21! thanks for sharing your views and the links.
yeah i see that the GTX670 is very closely matched with the GTX680. But you got a 91MHz of core clock variance between the 680 vs 670. so i guess you oughta be happy about your 680...hehehe.
I just opened the links you shared. thanks.
yeah ill compare neweggs to frys and a couple of other retailers. with frys & bestbuy, I can just get a single bus ride to them though. ama check neweggs nextday delivery yet.
leaving the car, cutting on gas costs. been given an annual CAT pass (bus) ....
thanks for your CPU recommendation.. i think i'll stick with i5-3570k your first recommend, i find it more attractive. since I don't do much overclocking anyways. newer technology is what i'll go for.
Thanks for the MOBO chipset suggestion! very much appreciated.
heard a lot of good stuff about G.Skill... i'll add them to the top of my considerations. G.Skill and Corsair. I think you got a very good awesome memory since it is a corsair! two thumbs up.
16Gb sounds really really enticing!
is there a fix now that the x86(32bit) can read more than 3gb of mem or I really need to use a 64bit win7?

Still need to use 64bit windows to see more than 3.5gigs of ram.
WoW! thanks PringlesCan! ur amazing
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Hmm, my 2 cents. Im running two power color 6970 liquid cooled. They seem to run all games fine. Ive never really bottle necked and i got both for about 750 or so .
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AMEN Pringlescan.
hence, the investigation. hehehehe
ill check out heating factors from the manufacturers website and also check pcmag, tomshardware sites as well.
i am seriously looking at water cooling for the GPU cards at least. i've heard very great heat controls/management stats using water cooling.
I dont like to manually overclock GPUs but still im looking at having watercooling as an option. even at least for the GPUs

Water cooled gpus are ehh. No real difference in performance and the cost is more. Don't get an already OC'd card.
I am listening PringlesCan.
here's a link, http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=02G-P4-2689-KR&family=GeForce%20600%20Series%20Family&sw=
im listening,
1. what's wrong with already/factory OC'd card?
2. why the ehhh on watercooled gpu's?hehehehe
isn't the heat management a lot better if we go water cooling? even just for the GPU's?
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I did the water cooling my self. Factory overclocked cards tend to be already stable and the mfg usually provides it with a better fan or a heat sink setup.
Another thing, air cooling is only good to a certain point. With water cooling, my cards never go beyond 50 Celsius. With air cooling, my cards hit 80 like nothing.

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cesmadj3042
32 bit win7 can be made to work with more than 4GB of RAM, (64GB is maximum with 36-bit PAE) however no single application will be able to address more than 4GB!
I would just stop thinking about 32-bit Win7 and just use the 64-bit version, if only because it’s faster. Maybe more importantly many serious programs are stopping support for 32-bit environments (After Effects, Premiere etc.).
My advice is to get 16GB of RAM as your config is fairly powerful and RAM is dirt cheap. Some newer games can make use of the RAM and most every pro app will be more than grateful.
For mobo the only logical choice is Intel Z77 chipset. Someone mentioned Asus Sabertooth – excellent choice, as is Asus P8Z77-V Pro. At this time Asus mobos are not the best value but Asus has the absolutely best reputation for motherboards. If you are after value look at Asrock… Don’t chase high end boards – they make NO sense if you are not going to be using exotic stuff like liquid nitrogen of quad SLI.
An important thing for SLI is to look at the spacing between the two cards. The mobos mentioned have their x16 slots three PCIe slots apart to aid GPU cooling…
Thank you for your tech insights cesmadj! great inputs. we appreciate them.
ok, win7 64bit it is! thanks for the great help.
been hearing and being pm'd about that intel Z77 chipset. So it is way better than nvidia based chipset if using nvidia cards (vice versa for AMD Radeon)?
Ahhh I see, AsRock is a great value mobo.
I am looking at eVGA card and mobo.
any suggestions from you for me to look at aside from eVGA MOBO? (i will not deal with MSI no longer, their mobo sucks)
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so there is also a spacing factor to compare mobos with. that is a very interesting point. so there are variations between mobos with their pcie spacing. thanks CESMADJ!

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Exactly Kasualty21! thanks for sharing your views and the links.
yeah i see that the GTX670 is very closely matched with the GTX680. But you got a 91MHz of core clock variance between the 680 vs 670. so i guess you oughta be happy about your 680...hehehe.
I just opened the links you shared. thanks.
yeah ill compare neweggs to frys and a couple of other retailers. with frys & bestbuy, I can just get a single bus ride to them though. ama check neweggs nextday delivery yet.
leaving the car, cutting on gas costs. been given an annual CAT pass (bus) ....
thanks for your CPU recommendation.. i think i'll stick with i5-3570k your first recommend, i find it more attractive. since I don't do much overclocking anyways. newer technology is what i'll go for.
Thanks for the MOBO chipset suggestion! very much appreciated.
heard a lot of good stuff about G.Skill... i'll add them to the top of my considerations. G.Skill and Corsair. I think you got a very good awesome memory since it is a corsair! two thumbs up.
16Gb sounds really really enticing!
is there a fix now that the x86(32bit) can read more than 3gb of mem or I really need to use a 64bit win7?

Still need to use 64bit windows to see more than 3.5gigs of ram.
Awesome!
you are preaching to the choir pringlescan!
win7 64bit it is.
lollovelinesswinkbiggrin

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